Skip to main content

differential equations - NDSolve::ndsz problem



I'm using NDSolve to solve a set of coupled differential equation which depend on a variable x. I noticed that when I set the range of x from a small value to a large value, I obtain solutions. But when I do the opposite I get a problem!


For example when I consider this,


t1 = 3000;
t2 = 4*^16;
f = 1/(16 Pi^2);
NDSolve[{y'[x] == f/x * 16 y[x]^3, y[t1] == 0.37}, y, {x, t1, t2},
Method -> {"ExplicitRungeKutta", "DifferenceOrder" -> 4}];

No errors and I can find:


y[t2] /. %


{0.920385}

Then I use this value of y[t2] as the initial condition for the following case, where I swap the range of x:


t1 = 3000;
t2 = 4*^16;
f = 1/(16 Pi^2);
NDSolve[{y'[x] == f/x * 16 y[x]^3, y[t2] == 0.92}, y, {x, t2, t1},
Method -> {"ExplicitRungeKutta", "DifferenceOrder" -> 4}]


I get the error:


NDSolve::ndsz: At x == 4.`*^16, step size 
is effectively zero; singularity or stiff system suspected.

I tried to switch off the StiffnessTest to see if the problem goes away, which would mean that it's a stiffness problem, but the error message still shows. Also tried to use:


Method -> {StiffnessSwitching, Method -> {ExplicitRungeKutta, Automatic}}

And it didn't work either.


Considering that this is a typical differential equation encountered in physics (renormalization group equations) I'm pretty sure that there should be no singularity at x = t2, and I should be able to solve from the high-scale to the low-scale.


Any insights on why this is happening and how to deal with it?




Answer



Probably it's round-off error. Increase WorkingPrecision, and limit AccuracyGoal and PrecisionGoal. Just what to set them to depends on the actual equations.


This works for the OP's example:


t1 = 3000;
t2 = 4*^16;
f = 1/(16 Pi^2);
sol1 = NDSolve[{y'[x] == f/x*16 y[x]^3, y[t1] == 0.37`50},
y, {x, t1, t2},
Method -> {"ExplicitRungeKutta", "DifferenceOrder" -> 4},
WorkingPrecision -> 50, MaxSteps -> 20000, AccuracyGoal -> 15,

PrecisionGoal -> 15];

sol2 = NDSolve[{y'[x] == f/x*16 y[x]^3,
y[t2] == (y[t2] /. First@sol1)}, y, {x, t1, t2},
Method -> {"ExplicitRungeKutta", "DifferenceOrder" -> 4},
WorkingPrecision -> 50, AccuracyGoal -> 15, PrecisionGoal -> 15,
MaxSteps -> 20000]

Comments

Popular posts from this blog

plotting - How to draw lines between specified dots on ListPlot?

I would like to create a plot where I have unconnected dots and some connected. So far, I have figured out how to draw the dots. My code is the following: ListPlot[{{1, 1}, {2, 2}, {3, 3}, {4, 4}, {1, 4}, {2, 5}, {3, 6}, {4, 7}, {1, 7}, {2, 8}, {3, 9}, {4, 10}, {1, 10}, {2, 11}, {3, 12}, {4,13}, {2.5, 7}}, Ticks -> {{1, 2, 3, 4}, None}, AxesStyle -> Thin, TicksStyle -> Directive[Black, Bold, 12], Mesh -> Full] I have thought using ListLinePlot command, but I don't know how to specify to the command to draw only selected lines between the dots. Do have any suggestions/hints on how to do that? Thank you. Answer One possibility would be to use Epilog with Line : ListPlot[ {{1, 1}, {2, 2}, {3, 3}, {4, 4}, {1, 4}, {2, 5}, {3, 6}, {4, 7}, {1, 7}, {2, 8}, {3, 9}, {4, 10}, {1, 10}, {2, 11}, {3, 12}, {4, 13}, {2.5, 7}}, Ticks -> {{1, 2, 3, 4}, None}, AxesStyle -> Thin, TicksStyle -> Directive[Black, Bold, 12], Mesh -> Full, Epilog -> { Line[ ...

dynamic - How can I make a clickable ArrayPlot that returns input?

I would like to create a dynamic ArrayPlot so that the rectangles, when clicked, provide the input. Can I use ArrayPlot for this? Or is there something else I should have to use? Answer ArrayPlot is much more than just a simple array like Grid : it represents a ranged 2D dataset, and its visualization can be finetuned by options like DataReversed and DataRange . These features make it quite complicated to reproduce the same layout and order with Grid . Here I offer AnnotatedArrayPlot which comes in handy when your dataset is more than just a flat 2D array. The dynamic interface allows highlighting individual cells and possibly interacting with them. AnnotatedArrayPlot works the same way as ArrayPlot and accepts the same options plus Enabled , HighlightCoordinates , HighlightStyle and HighlightElementFunction . data = {{Missing["HasSomeMoreData"], GrayLevel[ 1], {RGBColor[0, 1, 1], RGBColor[0, 0, 1], GrayLevel[1]}, RGBColor[0, 1, 0]}, {GrayLevel[0], GrayLevel...

Is there a way to do conditional matrix loop using 'continue'

I have the following: n = 3; m = 5; ww = RandomReal[{0, 0.1}, {n, n}]; uu = RandomReal[{0, 1}, {m, n}]; pp = RandomReal[{0, 1}, {n, n}]; ss = RandomInteger[{0, 5}, {m, n}]; Grid[{{"ww", "uu", "pp", "ss"}, {ww // TableForm, uu // TableForm, pp // TableForm, ss // TableForm}}, Spacings -> {5, 2}, Dividers -> All] where I would like to look at every element of matrix ss and produce a matrix tt , with zeroes at the locations in ss which have zeroes, and in all other positions do the following: tt = (-1/Subscript[ww, m]) Log[(1 - uu)/(Subscript[pp, m - 1])], where Subscript[ww, m] is the value at index of ww matrix and where Subscript[pp, m - 1] is the value at index-1 of pp matrix. So for example if the first value ever read from matrix ss happens to be 2, then value taken from matrix ww would be from the row 2, but from pp would be from row 1. Also how to tell difference between a 0 as a valid value from within the matrix elemen...